Interesting. I will be back when I can copy those lines down. The Kings Gambit has some f7 sacs that are similar, so maybe I can retain some of the lines.

Great video! I like the use of "sucker-punch."

2.Nf3 is an interesting line, I've never seen it. This analysis is fascinating. 3.Bc4 looks like it will take black off guard! The f7 sacrifice is nice. I like the checkmate in the first game, ...h6 ends hilariously!

Your analysis of the Bxf7 sacrifice is pretty interesting. I think the position after ...g6 is the most important one (as you discuss). I'm not sure how I feel about Qg4, I feel like white should have something better. This would be a lot of fun to play in blitz (as you said).

Also, what are the general ideas if black doesn't play Nb6? It seems like he should have a safer try.


....sorry if those comments are pretty disjointed. I was just jotting down my various reactions as I watched the video.

Glad you enjoyed it, petrovitch and I have scored a number of wins with these ideas over the years. If black doesn't play Nb6 (often because he's been mated this way before!) then he'll usually play e6 which defends the Knight and protects f7. After that, you can usually get a good game just by following the Modern Alekhine's strategy of d4, O-O, etc...

Ok, but that's if black plays everything YOU think it's going to play. I tried this against Rybka and it made me pay for the bishop sacrifice. It's evaluation says black has advantage after that. You have some good ideas, but they seem more like traps than a real bust to the Alekhine Defense.

Rybka recommended Kg8 after Ng5+. Then once Qf3 Qe8 of course. After the e6 push black instead creates space with g6. I had Rybka play as white from here and it just went on developing normally. Nc3 was it's next move and to me the attack is done and white doesn't have much compensation. Weak kingside though so it's not as if it's an unsound sacrifice, it just can easily be refuted with correct play.

there is another interesting line against the alekhine defense which takes people by surprice sometimes:

1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.c4 Nb6 4.c5 Nd5 5.Nc3 Nxc3 6.dxc3 d6 7.Qb3 dxe 8.Bg5! and black is in a heck of trouble here Bc4/Rd1/Qxb7/Qd5 and Bc4 are threats and the only "good-bad move" black has is Qd7 wich also loses to Rd1

in the g6 line i dont get why after e7 black resigns just Qxf6 and threating Qxa1 and then sac the knight for e7 pawn. and you down like a queen and a bishop

nice! il certainly be trying this in my blitz games. 2.Bc4 is also nice line for blitz, wouldnt recommend for tournament play tho.

If this Bxf7+ sac worked, it would be a refutation of the Alekhine's Defence.

Fortunately, after:

1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. Nf3 d6 4. Bc4 Nb6 5. Bxf7+ Kxf7 6. Ng5+ Kg8 7. Qf3 Qe8
8. e6

Black has the rejoinder 8...g6, and White has no better than

9. h4 h5 10. Nf7 Bxe6! 11. Nxh8 Kxh8

Now, if 12. Qxb7?? White loses his queen after 12... Bd5 13. Qxc7 Bc6, with 14...Na6 to follow.

If he doesn't grab the pawn, he is simply down two pieces for a rook, and two pieces behind in development. Black's king is exposed, but surrounded by defenders. White's isn't even castled.

Nice try, though.

[quote="DeepNf3"]there is another interesting line against the alekhine defense which takes people by surprice sometimes:

1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.c4 Nb6 4.c5 Nd5 5.Nc3 Nxc3 6.dxc3 d6 7.Qb3 dxe 8.Bg5! and black is in a heck of trouble here Bc4/Rd1/Qxb7/Qd5 and Bc4 are threats and the only "good-bad move" black has is Qd7 wich also loses to Rd1[/quote]

After
1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. c4 Nb6 4. c5 Nd5 5. Nc3 Nxc3 6. dxc3 d6 7. Qb3 dxe5 8. Bg5 Qd7
Black is doing fine.

If 9. Bc4 then 9 ... Qf5! (attacking the B/g5 and defending f7) 10. Be3 e6 and White's threats vanish.

9. Rd1 gets the same treatment. No sweat.

I agree this attack may be good in blitz games against say club level players, but I don't think I would like playing this in a serious game or tournament. Was fun to watch though and thanks for the video. If anything this will give me something to be on guard for when playing the Alekhine as black.

I play Alekhine not as a suprise weapon, but to win. I must say I lost one game to the Bf7 sacrifice (my third game with the Alekhine) long time ago. Now days I just love when the white players choose off-beat variations (there is a reason why they are not the main lines!). But I still hate the boring 1.e4 Nf6 2.Nc3 ... in which case I hope for 1.e4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3. e5 Nfd7 4. d4 c5 5. e6?! ... another dubious sac. Popularized by the Swedish grandmaster Hector. Often black will be left with a massive center control.

Against Bf7 sac g6, is the key move (as Jaxter points out). Black will be left with a fast development and good piece play.
Thanks for bringing this line up, though.

Regards Bayes

exactly, thats just what I wanted to say, g6 is the way out.