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thechesser
King
Joined: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:22 am Posts: 323 Location: United Stated
Rating Class: Class C (1400-1600)
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 underpromotion to make your opponent suffer?
I tried this before, i underpromoted all my pawns into knights and gave four knight checkmate... quite fun... but i think that made my opponent suffer a little bit... He should've resigned when i was totally winning, here is the final position  should i keep doing this? for more fun for people who are watching to see some checkmates they have never seen before?
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| Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:52 pm |
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dewetha
King
Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:40 pm Posts: 316 Location: Chicago,IL
Rating: 1230
Rating Class: Class D (1200-1400)
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 Re: underpromotion to make your opponent suffer?
if a guy doesn't resign when clearly beat, I like to demoralize him as much as possible for wasting my time. so go for it!
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| Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:53 pm |
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kobesarmy
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Joined: Sun Feb 24, 2008 7:20 pm Posts: 131
Rating Class: Class B (1600-1800)
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 Re: underpromotion to make your opponent suffer?
i definitely do that too, but ONLY when I feel like i had a clear win the entire time. I know after really really tough games, some ppl just play it out and I respect that. I'll just mate them short and sweet. But if it's somebody who makes me convert an up a queen game and takes forever, then yes, i'll will promote to bishops, sac my queen and taunt him for the rest of the game. give him hope, and then take it away
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| Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:19 pm |
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Wildman
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Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:24 pm Posts: 2001 Location: Silicon Valley, California, USA
Rating: 1702 USCF
Rating Class: Class B (1600-1800)
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 Re: underpromotion to make your opponent suffer?
You're in good company! If you haven't seen it I won't spoil it, but check out the classic Zibbit vs. Variance video: viewtopic.php?t=4147
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| Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:55 pm |
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Sarciness
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Joined: Tue May 11, 2010 2:38 am Posts: 580
Rating: 1658 FIDE
Rating Class: Class A (1800-2000)
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 Re: underpromotion to make your opponent suffer?
Personally, I wouldn't do that. I just like to get the job done ASAP and move on to the next round. Then again... THAT FINAL POSITION IS AWESOME!!!
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| Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:13 am |
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coreylan
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Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:46 pm Posts: 49
Rating: 1400
Rating Class: Class D (1200-1400)
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 Re: underpromotion to make your opponent suffer?
Do you really think the other person is "suffering"? If anything I think it makes you look just about as dumb for wasting your own time. By far the most amusing outcome of this would be if you messed up and let the other guy get stalemated. Seems about as reasonable a try for the opponent as you going for some obnoxious position with 5 knights and 3 bishops or whatever.
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| Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:49 am |
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FlintEastwood
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Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:45 am Posts: 655 Location: Berlin, Germany
Rating: FICS 1820
Rating Class: Class A (1800-2000)
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 Re: underpromotion to make your opponent suffer?
I think it's hilarious. I mean, I sometimes chuck away a queen to mate with two bishops - especially if I'm playing a friend who doesn't know how to mate with a certain combination...kind of half to say "you should have resigned", and half to educate/amuse.
I think, in the end, it's disrespectful of somebody not to resign in that position, but likewise, Variance nearly drew that legendary game, so maybe antagonising somebody into showing off and risking losing the win isn't such a bad idea after all!
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| Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:09 pm |
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katar
King
Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 12:19 pm Posts: 1783 Location: Los Angeles
Rating Class: Expert (2000-2200)
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 Re: underpromotion to make your opponent suffer?
it doesn't matter-- just a matter of personal taste.
personally i prefer to get the game over with and go relax somewhere away from a chess board. i guess it depends on whether you get a kick out of this sort of thing, or whether you took offense to begin with. i think it's all a bit silly, but "TO EACH HIS OWN".
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| Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:31 pm |
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Pobble
King
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:59 am Posts: 1383
Rating: 2200
Rating Class: National Master
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 Re: underpromotion to make your opponent suffer?
Back in the mid 90s I was giving one of my then usual blindfold Christmas simul display nights, against family and friends. Anyway, my friend Tony was being a right pain by playing on in a lost position, likely figuring to tire me out or hoping that next glass might be one too many. I was a bit narked, so like an idiot I wanted to be clever and forced the position with me having three knights against his lone king. When the game was finished, ok I admit, also while this was happening, I was called every name under the sun, by all and sundry. I just could not do it! Had I lost the game normally, nobody would have cared, but to admit a draw..........it still gives me goosebumps thinking about it. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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