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 Dennis M.: Alekhine-van Mindeno Part 1 [30:12]
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| Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:41 am |
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sfarmer29
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 Re: Dennis M.: Alekhine-van Mindeno Part 1 [30:12]
"Triage" is a good term. I've used the technique but never had a name for it. I guess there's no way to get around it, calculation can get messy and needs to be constantly be reshaped. If you know of an easier way to get through this maze, and are hiding it for some reason, please share it with us! I guess the real question boils down to how much you can clearly see without moving the pieces. I've seen pretty far ahead in some games, and I've seen pretty wide in others, but the far and wide combined continue to elude me and I guess that's why I keep playing the game. In the line w/Rh2 ...Nxg5 White has Qh4 threatens mate and the knight getting the material back. Now, so that the analysis of this line is not given in full so others can decide, the question will be does Black have a different move after 1. ...Ne5 2.Rh2. BTW, this is the same way I do analysis. I look at a lot of stuff, usually the crazy stuff first (The Livitsky-Marshall game is my guide) and if I can't make that work I look for move inversions, if these don't work I move on to other candidates. Somehow looking at the crazy stuff first brings me more in focus on the tactical end of things. I really liked this video, it took guts. I have often wanted to do something like this, giving analysis as I look into a position, but I don't like moving the pieces and that would make for a boring video for the viewers. Good job, Dennis!
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| Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:34 pm |
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Zamcam
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Very instructive, loved it, thanks!
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| Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:13 am |
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peter91
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Hi, I've got two suggestions for improvement:
In the line at 11:30 with ...Qxa2, b3 might be a good try for white, when his queen is defending a1. Also the black queen is cut of from the a2-g8 diagonal. ... Qa3+ doens't seem to do much after Kb1.
At 21:19, 1.Rh8 + might be a possibility. ...Kxh8 2. Qh4+ Kg8 3. Nxg5, and if 2. ... Nh7, then simply Qxe7.
After these, the Nxe4 line doesn't look too good for black anymore.
Peter
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JWhis
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Very sad video. Actually very good video, but makes me sad LOL. Even given the chance to move the pieces, I prob would only have gotten about half as thorough as you did with your calculations. Doing that completely mentally - out of the question for me at present! Some of these players are just incredible in the speed and depth of their calculations. I watched one of the videos from the Nakamura-Carlsen blitz in the blitz championships last month, and at the end of the game, Magnus hung a knight on f8, it took nakamura no more than 3 seconds to take it, with the point being that there was a mate in 6 if Magnus recaptured his rook. That kind of thing is mind boggling, and probably doesn't count as calculation so much as intuition. There was a point in this video where I had an idea but you jumped away. I didn't look to see the time, but it was a part of the Rh5 line I believe, where black had played f6. Anyway, white had a pawn on f4, I thought maybe f5 was possible for white to set up Qg4, then Rh8+ Kf7 Qh5+ g6 Qxg6# type mating net with the e6 square covered by the pawn. Prob no good, but just thought I'd share.
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sqmorr
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Hi Dennis,
Terrific video. My only additional thought when going over the lines mentally with your video was after 1.Rh2,Nxg5 2.Rh8+!? which seems strong and probably forces the win of the Queen after 2...Kxh8 3.Qh4+,Kg8 4.Nxg5,Qxg5+ or 4...Be4 5.Rh1,Qxg5+ or 3...Nh7 4.Qxe7.
Great that you had the guts to display your thoughts with no analysis or comp safety net!
Cheers, Graham
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JWhis
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Mr. Morrison! I thought you had left the site! Any more vids headed our way? I loved your previous work.
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| Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:21 am |
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sqmorr
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Hi JWhis, Thanks for the kind words. I am on holiday from Tuesday onwards and shall be posting at least one video later this week. Cheers, Graham
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kamus
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Very interesting video Dennis- thanks again!
Also-great news- looking forward to it Graham!
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Painkiller
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Impresive anylacing! I'm sure I would lose as black even if it's not sound for white. Now I will send you some christmas greatings from Sweden. / Mikael
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Jorge70
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 Re: Dennis M.: Alekhine-van Mindeno Part 1 [30:12]
At first thank you for this great presentation! I liked very much the "on board" analysis! During the presentation, in the line at 11:30, after 4. ... Qxa2 I 've said "why not 5.b3, why not 5.b3" (and at 26:00 again with the same line!), to hold the a2-g8 diagonal! But after, when I tried to find defence for Black, I saw 5. ... Nf6 and didn't manage to find a clear win for White! The problem is that white's queen has to keep the diagonal otherwise Black gives check at a1 and after with the knight and at least to exchange queen for the rook! And black's knight holds h7 in case that white's queen "leaves" diagonal with check, f.e. 6. Rh8+ Kxh8 7. Qh4 Kg8 8. Rh1 Qa1+ 9. Kd2 Ne4+ 10. Ke3 Qxh1 11. Qxh1 Rf6 12. Qxh7 Kf8 13. Qh8+ Ke7 14. Qxg7+ (if 14. Qxa8 dxe5 and black has R+N+B v Q) Ke6 15. Nxc6 bxc6 and black seems ok! On the other hand if White moves his attacked rook, f.e. 6. Rh4 after Rfe8 I couldn't find anything really good for White!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, George
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liriodelagua
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I too liked this video; it's a great example on how to analyse a position (as oppossed to "telling" which move is the right one, which lines are ok, which ones are not, etc.). Congrats again.
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hostagepoet
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 Re: Dennis M.: Alekhine-van Mindeno Part 1 [30:12]
 Can't wait for part 2
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| Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:43 am |
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scounged
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 Re: Dennis M.: Alekhine-van Mindeno Part 1 [30:12]
after ...Nxe4 1. Rh5, f5 2. g6, Qe6 3.Ne5, Qxa2 I was wondering what's wrong with b3? It seems quite unpleasant to me.
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