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ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10] 
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Post ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
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Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:06 pm
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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
Cool video but i don't get the point of the second idea, taking the opposition in a open board makes no scene why not add some pawns in the mix.

Also triangulation is a very good idea, but isn't it also simply common scenes?


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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
It is very important to know this technique. If you need to gain access into your opponent's position from afar rather than calculating single moves you can simply glance at a couple of key things and know you can outflank him. The kings on an empty board represent the idea in a pure form. This just shows you the basics of what it does and what it accomplishes.


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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
Light,

imagrandmaster answered ur first question. As for triangulation being common sense, i can see how its easy to find if u have a lot of time in an OTB game, but in a blitz game, many people including myself would probably screw up. What i'm trying to do is to present the idea of triangulation to people who have never been aware of its existence (and drill it in their heads). That way they would recognize when to use triangulation instantly without having to calculate for minutes. And the example i used is a simple problem that points out the idea of triangulation. There are many triangulation problems that are a lot harder than the example in my video.


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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
Well articulated and you brought up valuable themes for me to start working on.


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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
ccmolitoris,

Excellent video. Given the 15 min limitation you did what you sought out to do. You made the observer aware of two very important endgame motifs, Triangulation and Outflanking motifs. Kudo's to you as well for choosing the endgame as a topic for the contest. I do think that you could have showed a few more examples and sufficiently used more of your 15-min limitation, and maybe elaborated a bit more on the fact that white does not stay on the same color complex to achieve his objective. outflanking begins when you actually decide to give up the opposition in return for a more favorable objective of reaching a certain destination. As ...Kh8 Kf3! displayed. Please do not hesitate to continue to make more video's. You sound good on mic and we look forward to your video lessons.


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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
thanks for ur kind comments jbeaty. I'm still waiting for some new videos from u :D

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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
Nice video. The outflanking was interesting.

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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
you didn't show triangulation! this is more like mined squares.


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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
Hi. Just reading the feedback on this video. I think what "light" was trying to elude to is that a person trying to gain a deeper understanding of chess strategy, with little or no previous study, might not see the practical use of this without having shown an example that involved other pieces. It's a fine video for the person who already gets why you would need to gain that type of positional advantage with one's king. Sometimes when you're teaching, you have to pretend you don't know as much as you obviously do. :)


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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
So when has outflanking occurred in an actual game? I don't understand its application.


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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
I'm a newbie and not as well versed in endgame tactics as I'd like to be, but the best I can see for white after capturing the black pawn is a draw. If black steps back a square, he can easily prevent white's advance up the middle, and if white tries to outflank him to the left, black wins the race to convert a pawn. Maybe somene can show me the "easy win for white'!


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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
[quote="JimGeorge36"]I'm a newbie and not as well versed in endgame tactics as I'd like to be, but the best I can see for white after capturing the black pawn is a draw. If black steps back a square, he can easily prevent white's advance up the middle, and if white tries to outflank him to the left, black wins the race to convert a pawn. Maybe somene can show me the "easy win for white'![/quote]

..Kd6 Ke4 Kc6 Kd3 Kd6 Kc3

White uses the initiative to push black to c6 while she makes her way to c3 to push b4 and promote the c pawn.


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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
But what if

1. Kf2 Kd7
2. Ke3 Kc6
3. Ke4 Kd6


Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:49 am
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Post Re: ccmolitoris - Triangulation and Outflanking [8:10]
[quote="JimGeorge36"]But what if

1. Kf2 Kd7
2. Ke3 Kc6
3. Ke4 Kd6[/quote]

White is 100% won in that line.

Play continues Ke3 Ke5 Kd3 Kf4 b4
and white still wins the race with the time he's gained.


Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:13 am
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