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Post Re: katar - W vs 2100 Nimzo 4.e3 [24:04]
Hey Katar,

Awesome video and very cool defence. I really like the videos on your slow/club games.

I had a question on the position arising at around 6.28:
Can't black just exchange the knights with ..Nxd5, Nxd5 and then ..Nf6. He then threatens to take twice on d5 and you kind of have to exchange your knight for probably his bishop. Your still somewhat better I guess but maybe it's an improvement for black?


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Post Re: katar - W vs 2100 Nimzo 4.e3 [24:04]
Lolchair wrote:
I had a question on the position arising at around 6.28:
Can't black just exchange the knights with ..Nxd5, Nxd5 and then ..Nf6. He then threatens to take twice on d5 and you kind of have to exchange your knight for probably his bishop. Your still somewhat better I guess but maybe it's an improvement for black?

Good comment, I agree your line would be an improvement over the doubled pawn position. I also agree White would probably take Nxe7 and 2 bishops should give White a small advantage with all pawns still on the board (since pawns are not locked/fixed). White would then try to open a file and trade off Queens and one pair of rooks to emphasize the bishop pair, trying to reach RB vs RN or B vs N endgame with many pawns.

Thx for your nice words too.

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Post Re: katar - W vs 2100 Nimzo 4.e3 [24:04]
Whoa, Qe4!! Definitely hard to spot.

In your line around 15:40, Black has also the option of Qxc1+. It's a meaningless line anyway.

I share the same predicaments sometimes in games, too. I have a comfortable position where nothing much is going on but then out of nowhere I make the mistake of forcing things when there is no need for it. On the contrary, I have also made mistakes where I kept my pieces sitting in a position for far too long, where there was a demand for action i.e. exchanges etc. It's like a double edged position that you are oblivious about. Surely one of my biggest weaknesses.


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Post Re: katar - W vs 2100 Nimzo 4.e3 [24:04]
Thanks as always for sharing your games! You certainly showed impressive resilience and earned the 1/2 point despite losing the strategical thread in the early middlegame. As for your post-mortem comments on 'sitting' on the position, one chess author who has written about this idea is Jonathan Rowson, in his book Chess for Zebras. The particular chapter is called "Doing and Being." I won't attempt to explain it since Rowson does such an excellent job himself. It's a great read!


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Post Re: katar - W vs 2100 Nimzo 4.e3 [24:04]
Interesting game and good commentary as always. I just recorded a Bogo-Indian that Robby Adamson played last Monday and I made the comment that these types of openings can be like a roller-coaster ride of 10ths of a pawn, too many of them and they add up, if both sides mess up you get the roller coaster effect. I think you saw that in your own game, making a few 2nd best moves can put you in a predicament.

BTW I did find one game in my database with 9...e5, but it is the only one, and from 1948, so take it with a huge grain of salt!

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "38"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e3 O-O 5. Nge2 b6 6. a3 Be7 7. Nf4 Bb7 8. Bd3
d6 9. O-O e5 10. Nfe2 d5 11. cxd5 Nxd5 12. Nxd5 Bxd5 13. Qc2 g6 14.
Rd1 exd4 15. Nxd4 Bd6 16. f4 Bb7 17. Ne2 f6 18. b4 Kg7 19. b5 c5 20. f5 Kg8 21.
fxg6 h6 22. Rf1 c4 1-0 Sandrin,A-Kramer,G/Omaha 1949/EXT 1999

I agree with your conclusion to draw, would seem the right outcome even with enough time to study. Your wrap-up is very accurate, you simply made the wrong decision to trade off the minors, it really helped out Black's game.

Good game otherwise, taking lemons and making lemonade.

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Post Re: katar - W vs 2100 Nimzo 4.e3 [24:04]
At around 3:00 in the video, instead of ...Nbd7, black could have played ...Nxd5, and after Nxd5 ...Bxd5 cxd5 ...exd4 exd4, there are doubled and isolated pawns for white on the d-file. How do judge this? Should this be OK for white since he has the bishop pair, or do the weaknesses of the pawn structure outweigh the benefits of the bishop pair? Or, am I totally missing something :-)?


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Post Re: katar - W vs 2100 Nimzo 4.e3 [24:04]
shraavanchess wrote:
At around 3:00 in the video, instead of ...Nbd7, black could have played ...Nxd5, and after Nxd5 ...Bxd5 cxd5 ...exd4 exd4, there are doubled and isolated pawns for white on the d-file. How do judge this? Should this be OK for white since he has the bishop pair, or do the weaknesses of the pawn structure outweigh the benefits of the bishop pair? Or, am I totally missing something :-)?

This is discussed at 5:35 in the video. My opinion is that Black's backward c-pawn is a more serious pawn structure problem, the d-pawns control a lot of the center and are not easy to attack, and the 2 bishops will be too strong. Thx for the comment btw. :)

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Post Re: katar - W vs 2100 Nimzo 4.e3 [24:04]
Thanks, I enjoyed watching.
This video shows me you have the tools already to take that next leap forward. Could I ask you not to put too much faith in computer assessment in positions of positional nature? Maybe you could look at some Botvinnik games or something, as centralization is a big thing in chess. The Ng4 tactic was not really that hard to see, in fact given the position, something had to be there! There was a geometric space with a symmetry as usual. As with the tactic, the positional assessment would I suspect be easier if you just took a step back in your mind before plunging into problem solving mode.

Likely what I wrote above will just be confusing. Imagine looking at a garden for the first time. At first the mind is empty, just taking the arrangement of plants, the walls surrounding and spaces. Naturally the next step is, does it match your taste? You cannot help but judge the garden. Maybe you see how it could be improved? All this happens within seconds. Maybe your friend will speak up asking if you are daydreaming, which you were. Talking about the garden, you and your friend begin discussing specifics - what to do with clay earth etc.

I suspect you do not do enough gardening when playing your chess! This is a biologically inherited talent we all possess. It is a natural method for your brain, so you having nothing to learn. Without learning anything new and just ' taking it in ', before solving, you could be 2200+ over night.

I know you like Lasker. But Lasker had a big message for chess, and that message was judgement over supposed genius. In the manual Lasker praises Steinitz and his theory, but it was really Lasker's theory in truth.


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