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My First Self Analysis Game pls comment
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kartha
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 My First Self Analysis Game pls comment
Hey, After going through How to analyse our own games I have done a self analysis of a recent game. In this game I played White. My observations on the Game are as follows: Please share your comments both on the Game as well as my Self Analysis. I would like to improve my self-Analysis of Chess Games. The fully Annotated PGN is available here: Hidden Text Below - [Show it] - [Hide it Again] [Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "2012.01.02"] [Round "?"] [White "kartha"] [Black "NN"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "1485"] [BlackElo "1540"] [EventDate "2012.01.02"]
{This is a blitz game which I played after long time, I lost as I couldn't calculated well in the Middle game and gave 2 pawns freely. However in one critical postion(12..Nd4) I have defended well and made it equalized, immediately I calculated wrongly and gave pawns freely by Pinning My Bishop. Things I learned from this game are: 1. When discovered Attack is there on a piece it is better to Play the piece or Defend the piece instead of playing something else even though the piece can attack. 2. Not to give pawns easily in a blitz game 3. Not to Move our Minor pieces in such a way that they gets pinned to Queen or King (in this game both my Bishop and Rook got pinned) 4. Dont initiate the Exchange unless it gives you better position or stops opponents from getting into good position.} 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e5 5.Nb3 {In my previous games I have moved it back to Nf3 and i wanted to try Nb3 in this game. As c file is semi open for Black I dont want to castle it towards Queenside in that case it is not required to move it to Nb3 as in this game it was completely inactive throughout. If I am planning to castle Queen side than It would be a good choice to move it to Nb3 as Nc3 followed by Castling and than Moving Nb3 to Nc1 would defend Whites King. I dont want to castle towards Queenside as there is a Rook open file on C.} 5...Nf6 6.Nc3 Be7 7.Bc4 O-O {Also Nb3 is blocking the best square for my Bishop Bb3. Better is to retreat towards Nf3, or need to try Nb5 followed by Na3 which i dont prefer.} 8.O-O Nc6 {All my powers are towards Queenside.} 9.f4 {I wanted to break the Center early, As e*f would develop Whites position Black didn't exchanged Need to verify breaking the center at this moment is good or later.} 9...Be6 {I was afraid to open the f file for black.} 10.Qe2 {I dont like to open Rook files to the side my king is castled. so i decided not to exchange but to develop} 10...a6 11.Be3 Rc8 {Here I saw the discovered attack during the game, however what I thought is when the attack is placed i can just exchange the Bishops, This calculation was wrong.} 12.Rad1 {Here is my mistake in the calculation, I saw that Rc8 has discovered attack on my Bishop even though i moved Rd1 better would have been Bd3 which would have strengthen my center and saved the piece} ( 12.Bd3 ) 12...Nd4 {Here is the critical postion of the game, Bishop is being attacked by 2 pieces and Queen is under attack. However i came up with a good idea i.e to add defence to Bishop and only way is with Rook sack so that Black cannot capture my bishop immediately.} 13.Rxd4 exd4 {I need to capture the Bishop as if not My bishop would be given freely as 2 attackers and one defender} 14.Bxe6 {I was prepared for Exchange down but my opponent took Knight hoping for advantage.} 14...dxc3 ( 14...fxe6 15.Bxd4 ) 15.Bxc8 Qxc8 {Later when analysing i thought any way the b2 pawn can't be saved, instead of b*c3 is there any good move. Then i saw the move Bd4 as it is saving my e4 pawn and more importantly it will not allow Black Queen to penetrate into my territory.} 16.bxc3 ( 16.Bd4 cxb2 17.Bxb2 ) 16...Qxc3 {I learned an important observation that do not exchange utill there is considerable advantage either in postion or in piece. Here i exchanged and allowed Black Queen to advance into White's terrritory which is a blunder.} 17.Bd2 {Total miscalculation, I was actually down on time as i took lot of time in calculating my previous hurdle Nd4. This allowed free pawn sack and totally out of my hands. I thought better alternative would have been Bd4 instead of Bd2.} ( 17.Bd4 Qc6 18.Re1 d5 19.Bxf6 Bxf6 20.e5 Bh4 21.Rd1 ) 17...Qxc2 18.e5 dxe5 19.fxe5 Ne4 20.Qe1 Qxa2 21.Qxe4 Qxb3 22.Qg4 Qd3 23. Be1 Bc5+ 24.Bf2 Bxf2+ 25.Rxf2 b5 26.e6 {Last try} 26...Qe3 {But My opponent is smart enough..! to guess that.} ( 26...fxe6 27.Qxe6+ Rf7 28.Qxf7+ Kh8 29.Qf8# ) 27.h3 Qxe6 28.Qxe6 fxe6 29.Re2 Re8 30.Kf2 Kf7 31.Ke3 Ra8 32.Kd3 a5 33.Kc3 Kf6 34.Kb3 h6 35.h4 Kf5 36.g4+ Kxg4 37.Rxe6 Kxh4 38.Re4+ Kg5 39.Re5+ Kg4 40.Rxb5 g5 41.Rd5 a4+ 42.Ka3 h5 43.Rd4+ Kg3 44.Rxa4 Rxa4+ 45.Kxa4 g4 0-1
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| Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:59 am |
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Pobble
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Your notes confirm what the game told me anyway.
Your thinking process is wrong. Annotating games in a strictly descriptive fog only reinforces your bad patterns of thought. You have not yet mastered the basics. You have not yet mastered what is a tempo. This has nothing to do with calculation, simply observation. I keep telling people not to try and run before they have leant to walk - to progress you must start again!
Making notes should for you be nothing more than a tick against correct preference or priority of moves.
A tempo is important because by the rules each player must take his turn. Tempo=obligation.
Here are some instances 1.Check 2.capture 3.two pieces hanging at the same time ( yes, you can only take one of them ) 4.activity. This also covers development.
All the above can be found in beginners books, and you have skipped them because it seemed so obvious and easy - which is why you cannot do them.
Take move 5.Nb3 or the other move you mention 5.Nf3 Well, both moves are bad. Neither should be a first preference, and should only be thought of, or played as last resorts. Spot the tempo?
The first question you must always ask yourself is - can I take or attack something? Next question if you cannot do either with profit, is " what is my most active reply ". This may just be developing a piece, or it may be moving a piece into a more active position. The one thing you must learn to hate doing, is moving pieces backwards. BACKWARDS when forced to do so.
Go through the game and your notes ticking when you followed the basics. This is an observation exercise - one you will learn a lot from.
The majority of the members on this site would improve greatly just from this simple exercise, instead of buying the latest book or dvd. It takes little time to do.
The great thing about doing a game this way, is you cannot fool yourself, or reinforce bad habits. It simply forces you to consider what you have been blind to. Results are black and white, with no grey areas in which to hide.
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| Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:10 pm |
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gigenieks
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Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:14 am Posts: 34
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Whoa, just wow!!!  It's clear after this post that you want to improve! (How long this analysis did you take?) You did good work! Indeed. I will reply as soon possible. Be patient.
Last edited by gigenieks on Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:32 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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| Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:34 pm |
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gentlewhisper
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You should also visit flatman's training journal. His analysis' are quite thoroughly done too. viewtopic.php?f=16&t=8192&start=165Also, listen to Pobble. He always gives excellent advice.
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| Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:43 pm |
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gigenieks
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My analysis. Play slow games. And analyse your slow games first! Read this for more info (link)I will quote one guy: OK, next:Don't worry about that. As for I couldn't calculate. You need to improve your tactics! TACTICS is your keyword now! ( you can read this Fromper post about tactics (link)It is said by various sources that the most single rewarding thing one can do in order to improve in chess is doing tactics EVERY day.So my suggestion is: Go to Chess Tempo site and do tactics EACH day about 30min or 1h or more (depends how much time you have) But minimum 30min. I have question after you did 4.Nxd4 e5. Did you play: - opening
- just developed pieces
- have some strategy (long-term)
? Next:Don't analyse like this. Instead do this kind of thinking in game & after game: As I suggested you in this post.It could go as simple for you as this ---> Ok knight on d4 is attacked, I need to move with it. Where? Ok I'm going to b3 square. Wait... WHY? Why not to f3 square or maybe b5 square? Hmm, let me think about this... His pawn on d6 looks weak. How can I exploit this? ... Ahh I need to get knight on c4 square. HOW? Nb5 attacks immediately, but he has a6 no worries then I will do Na3-Nc4 maneuver. And so on, so on.........Get it? Next:So you did f4 move with that intention, right? But then you say this and CHANGE your plans: I will quote G.Kasparov from that book I already suggested ---> Having a goal and objectives is the first step; sticking with them and staying on course is the next.As you see I don't give any variations from my side yet, because we need to understand your thinking processes. And suggest instead our "better" thinking. Logical? Is my reply good enough? Understandable for you?
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| Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:33 pm |
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kartha
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Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:38 pm Posts: 85
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Thanks Pobble for clarifying me on "tempo". Appreciate that.. I haven't had chance to learn from books or Coaches. I was just playing blindly but playing seriously from past 1 year or so, something I dont know what but something is there in Chess which is drawing my attention.. I am kind of addicted to playing. From past few months I was not able to improve my game and am loosing worstly. So I started Posting for help from 31-Dec onwards. As you told I am ready to start again. I am also confident that I can now grasp things quickly as I was playing from quite sometime. Only thing that I am in search of is the right guidance. I have been searching sites, going through videos and others things.. However I play few extraordinary games and later on i would be caught on some basic mistakes which I dont want to. If you can guide me, I will give my best.
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| Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:41 am |
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Pobble
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There is no big secret in chess. You just keep it simple, and let the writers provide the genius behind your moves.
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| Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:07 am |
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kartha
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Gigenieks: Man You are something.. really Appreciate your suggestion. I am going one by one slowly. I would reply to you in parts. It took my around 1:45mins for the analysis. 1. Noting critical positions, manually trying out new alternatives in that positions. and Reasons for my moves why I moved that. Next I have done a Blunder check and verified where i missed. I have read your suggestion on Tactics, I will plan to include Practicing Tactics in my Weekly schedule. My answer is None, I used to watch some of GM matches where in their response to sicilian is most likely N*d4 so I followed it till that point. After that I am not sure so I was playing my own game after that. 
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| Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:20 am |
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kartha
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Gigenieks, coming to your other questions: I want to break the center and open my rook file for attack, And I dont want to Open his f pawn and bring his Rook into Attack, thats how I was thinking. I agree with your reply..!! its perfectly logical and apt. I am ready to share my way of thinking and want it to be improved. Let me know incase of any clarifications on my thinking process.
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| Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:30 am |
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kartha
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Thanks Pobble, I will remember that..!!
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| Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:31 am |
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kartha
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Gigenieks: Have you seen my reply, Waiting for your comments.
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| Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:03 pm |
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gigenieks
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But I already commented on your analysis and game here! See my post @ Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:33 am.You need analyse your next game focusing on your thinking processes. Give less variations. Instead post more your thinking, like I said it could be something like this: Next game should really be slow game (no blitz). Time control 30min EACH or more. I also gave you some advices & suggestions. I can only hope you do them not just read and ignore. Did I make sense?
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| Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:12 am |
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kartha
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Thanks Gigenieks, I will do that.
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| Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:55 am |
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stryder67
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Hello! I too am just learning to analysize my own games. Now I can see where this would be a great mental checklist during game. But as a complete beginning noob at self-analysis, should these be my guidelines for a intial self-analysis? I was also coming to realize that during my play and self-analysis, I have to do a check-list that includes, what did his last move as for as attacking something of mine, hanging something of his. What suggestions of resources should a noob look at for improving their ability to do self-analysis? Thanks in advance.
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| Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:31 am |
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Pobble
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For certain, follow a simple check list. There are two types of commentary - 1.Objective. 2.Subjective. I have always argued strongly that attention should first and foremost be placed upon number one ' objectivity '. You can trust in what is certain, that which cannot be doubted. There is no room for excuses or denial. Truth cannot be hidden in a cloud of mystical theoretical hot air. What is easily identified as real, that which everyone, any observer, commentator would not be able to dispute - must be mastered. The skill to see the obvious and understand the obvious is the most important skill in chess! No one, not even the Masters who get paid to post videos on this site have enough skill in the basics. Advanced ideas in chess all live and die by how well they adhere to what is objective. Likely you can trust the subjective statements of the worlds top players on a position, but with every run of the ladder down from mere 2700,2600, normal GM, and below, the subjective assessment, argument, ideas, anything, gets weaker and weaker and cannot be trusted. Most of the videos on this site are very good, as they pretend to be nothing more than they are - I admit some instructional ones make me cringe. They all, good and bad, possess a lot of subjective statements which frankly must be taken with a pinch of salt. Only trust what you can know for certain. To know something in the real world for certain, you can hold it, point to it, pick it up, bang your toe on it etc. Many strong players write about chess in a way they themselves do not play it. Maybe in some psychotic way they even believe the rubbish they write - who can say? I am a big fan of the second world champion Emanual Lasker. I was lucky enough to read his manual when I was a kid, though it is a pretty heavy read, his ideas stuck, and it is still the best instructional book on chess ever written. Actually, its the only one which is worth the paper it is written on. Obviously these are only my own opinions, you will have no trouble finding thousands who disagree entirely with me. Peace 
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| Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:49 pm |
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