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Knight
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 My Game#9 Pls Comment
I played White in this game.
I started with Colle system with b3 variation. I believe i was in good position till 22. .. Qc6. Instead of Queen exchange i tried not to exchange Queens. Which turned out to be a mistake. Later out of time pressure I moved29. Qg3? which was a complete blunder.

I need your comments whether whites position was better till 23 moves and what plans should white have at that juncture. I realize trying not to exchange Queens at 23 was my mistake. Please let me know any other observations on the game.



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Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:09 am
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
I think it looks quite equal until Re4. That's just so unnatural, self pinning (doubly, with the king on the same diagonal) and just breaking your coordination. Until then you maybe having a slight space advantage, and with your king more open I would say exchanging queens is to your benefit.


Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:55 am
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
[Event "Fics rated standard 15 3"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2013.02.03"]
[Round "?"]
[White "kartha"]
[Black "NN"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1682"]
[BlackElo "1735"]
[PlyCount "79"]
[EventDate "2013.??.??"]

1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Bg4 3. Nbd2 Nd7 4. e3 c5 5. b3 e6 6. Bb2 Ngf6 7. h3 Bh5 8. Bd3
Qa5 9. c3 $6 {That is not necessary since Black can't play Ne4.} Rc8 10. O-O
Bd6 11. Re1 Qc7 12. e4 dxe4 13. Nxe4 O-O 14. Nxf6+ $6 {This is a wrong
exchange.White should play 14.Nxd6 as after 14...Qxd6 15.dxc5 Qxc5 16.c4
white's q-side majority and the strong bishop at b2 gives him the better
chances.Black has to be very careful as almost all B vs K or R+B vs R+K
endgames favor white significantly.} Nxf6 15. c4 Bh2+ 16. Kh1 Bf4 17. g4 Bg6
18. Ne5 Rfd8 19. Bxg6 hxg6 20. Qf3 Bxe5 21. dxe5 Nd7 22. Rad1 Qc6 23. Re4 $2 {
The exchange of queens would give good winning chances for white since Nd7 is
pinned.White can continue with Re2 and Red2 with a clear advantage.} Nb6 24.
Rxd8+ Rxd8 25. Kh2 $2 {The invasion of the Black rook on the second rank
should be prevented with either 25.Bc3 or 25. Qe3} a5 $2 {He should play 25...
Rd2} 26. Bc3 $1 a4 27. h4 axb3 28. axb3 Nd7 29. Qg3 Qxe4 30. f3 Qe2+ 31. Kh3
Qd3 32. Ba1 Qxb3 33. g5 Qxc4 34. h5 Nf8 35. h6 Kh7 36. Kg2 Rd2+ 37. Kh3 Rd1 38.
hxg7 Kxg7 39. Bb2 Rh1+ 40. Qh2 0-1


Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:17 pm
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
Rooper: Appreciate your analysis of my game, Thanks a lot.
Please find my comments below:
i agree that 14.Nxd6 is better. one more thing which i got is that instead of 16. Kh1 better would have been 16. Kf1 what do you say.

I too agree preventing black from entering second rank is a must. i was down on time and also piece which made me overlooked and loose hope in continuing the game further..


Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:25 pm
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
16.Kf1 seems risky to me.I certainly prefer 16.Kh1 so that your king is not exposed to future checks.


Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:43 am
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
ok. Qh1+ those lines are little risky got that.. thank you..


Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:03 am
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
One last thing.
Maybe the most important mistake you did in the game is that "you lost hope and overlooked"(as you said).
Learn not to lose before losing.
Check the position , if you feel you must play , play , it's entirely your decision.
But when you play , always try for the best.Never lose hope while the game is in progress.
If the position is hopeless , resign .If it isn't or if you feel your opponent can't win it , play as tough as possible.
The most tough opponents are the ones that are ready to throw everything to you and they are never discouraged from the bad course of the game.
I have seen many games won despite the desperate position.


Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:32 am
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
2...Bg4 is a very good anti-Colle move if you let him get away with it. Whenever you see this bishop leave home, always look at the b7 square for which it is the natural defender. The best answer to this reversed Trompowsky has been known for a long time, 3.Ne5! Bf5 4.c4 with a quick Qb3 or Qa4+ coming. On any dxc4 you will grab the centre,Nc3,e4 etc.

By analogy with other openings it is clear that black is doing well out of the opening as white is passive. 12.e4 was too ambitous due to cxd4 giving a IQP position but a good type for black who is clearly better. Instead you should just continue developing and aiming for a later c3-c4.

In the Colle your key square is e5. A typical scheme is Nf3-Ne5,f4,Qf3,Qh3 or something of this type. As the game went, it was not possible to attempt such a plan, so you must look for a more flexible approach against those moves designed to stop the Colle from working, see 3.Ne5 above.


Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:58 am
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
Thanks Rooper I will remember your advise. Its not over until its over. Keep hope alive..


Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:13 pm
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
Pobble: Good to see your comments. I am glad to see it. In one shot you have given me lot of ideas in Colle. I am going through them. will share my understanding back soon.


Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:16 pm
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
Pobble: Ne5! idea is quite sharp, i will remember to try it for anti-colle moves like Bf5.


Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:49 am
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
Glad you like it. Against 2..Bg4 3.Ne5 is a tempo move as it hit's the bishy. On 2..Bf5 just 3.c4 makes most sense, or the simple 3.e3 ( note no pin ) intending 4.c4 next, which is less complicated, or the super solid 4.Nbd2 intending 5.c4 next with zero complications. The last suggestion avoids any Keres opening variations which you might not want to learn - 1.d4 d5 2.c4 Bf5 but by transposition via Colle move order. ( it can be pretty sharp as black has Nc6-Nb4 gambiting the b7 pawn - remember the Bf5 )
Such Keres lines are not a problem when you have a Ne5 for free.


Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:10 pm
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
Pobble i did not understand "gambiting the b7 pawn - remember the Bf5 " part. could you please eloborate little for me.

Also this varition below is it fine.
2...Bf5 3.Nbd2 Nc6 4.c4 Nb4 5.Qa4+ Nc6


Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:16 am
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
Against a Keres-type defense(1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Bf5) , the "c4-Qb3 attack"(considered for many years the Anti-Keres , not anymore) doesn't work because Black can actually ignore the attack on b7



That line is not possible for Black after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Bg4 3.Ne5 Bf5 because Black plays the 2...Bf5 defense having allowed White to put his knight at e5 for free.


Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:27 am
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 Re: My Game#9 Pls Comment
Sorry, I can see how what I wrote could be confusing. My bad. Sometimes I'm just brain dead and it shows it'self in odd ways :lol:

Your line as I'm sure you know is a good tempo winning one for you, the Nc6-Nb4-Nc6 is just time wasting by black.

The Keres is also called the ' Baltic ', depending on which country you come from, or maybe just whether you were around for live on tv when man first landed on the moon. The Keres is trappy but nothing to worry white if he learns some theory.
The pure Keres move order is 1.d4 d5 2.c4 Bf5 when 3.cxd5! is best, but white could also try 3.Qb3 when black does best to gambit with 3...Nc6 as far as I know. Anyway, it was just this ' idea ' for black in the queens pawn openings that I wanted you to be aware of, as it can be dangerous sometimes. When black has a Bf5 targeting your c2 pawn ( knight fork square against your K+R ), you must always take a knight jump into account.

I have seen many a so called ' coach ' for juniors over stress this Bf5/Nb4 idea to a ' pattern play ' for easy quick wins with many a game going-
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Bf5 3.e3 Nc6 4.Be2 Nb4 5.c3?? Nc2+!!!!!!!!!! Making many a parent happy for the money wasted. ( if they only knew better ) Obviously a less painting by numbers child might find 5.Na3 with c3 coming soon.

This idea is very common. In the Slav for instance 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dxc4 ( classic Slav ) 5.e4 ( Geller gambit ) b5 6.e5 Nd5 7.a4 when now Nxc3 is the mainline, but it did not stop GM Judit Polgar trying 7....Nb4 with a non too suptle idea you might be familiar with by now to the point of cliche.


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