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mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07] 
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 mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
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Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:49 am
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
I do not have an engine in front of me, but I think in the last game Rc8 would be a terrible blunder. Possibly Rb8 is trickier. Otherwise the knight captures the bishop with check and the other bishop falls as well.


Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:45 am
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
Another great video that brings these positional ideas down to earth. Everything sounds so simple when you describe it.

I think it's kind of amazing that strong players like Matt and Vojislav (MrBird) recently started volunteering their time & expertise to post videos on here.

@Fillemup, yeah it seems he meant Rb8. At 12:02 Rc8 loses to Nxe7+ as you noted. The planning concept of prophylaxis still applies though, and it was very well explained in this video.

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Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:19 am
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
yeah, I messed up in the heat of video-making. I can't leave the engine running during videos because I have an ancient laptop that will melt. So, when I'm curious about some move, like here I wondered why Bxf6 instead of Nxf6, then I can make mistakes without the computer telling me


Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:27 am
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
Some good examples, though the first answer seemed too artificial. This may have been because I wanted to do an Anna ( who wouldn't given half a chance? ) with the simple idea to trade queens.

Thanks for the video.


Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:57 pm
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
Really enjoyable video, I like the idea of seeing where you're stronger and playing there.

If your opponent had a plan that was unclear, would you still play to stop their plan?
or would it be best to carry out your own plan in a strong area of the board?

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Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:13 pm
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
thanks for the video, great content. Around the 10 minute mark, i was also thinking Rfd8 instead of Rad8, as i felt Qa5 was annoying, but it looks like White gets a passive position if they start getting greedy and taking the pawns, and black gets them back anyway.

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1... Rad8 2. Qa5 b6 3. Qxa7 Ra8 4. Qxb6 Rfb8

now.... 5 Qc5 only square.

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and now after the trade of queens, white loses their b pawn, and has to play passive if they want to hold onto the a pawn, and the C pawn is weak too. Fun stuff to look at.

Looking forward to more videos :)


Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:05 pm
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
Yeah really great video IMHO!


Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:15 am
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
@Pobble - haha, sorry I insulted your move. Not sure how to force a queen trade there, but this demonstrates the point that strong players, even grandmasters disagree about moves, plans, and even evaluations of positions all the time.

@tuggernongy - you bring up a good point that I should have mentioned in the video. Once you have a plan, the actual move you play must be well supported by accurate calculation. In this way, the implementation of your strategic goals is frequently intimately connected to the specific tactics in the position. Both Nf6 in the second example and Qf3 in the fourth were supported by back rank and discovered check respectively. So, once you find a plan, you must still calculate variations to make sure you can implement it well.

@jtixs - you only want to prevent your opponent from achieving his plan if it is a threat to you. In the examples, the plan of e4 was threatening because it would give white a strong center, so it was a good idea to prevent it. The plan of c5 threatened to equalize by activating blacks pieces and contesting the center, so it was a good idea to prevent it. If your opponent's plan isn't any good for him, or he has no active plan in the position, then you should get on with your own ideas. The best moves are multipurpose: they help your own active plan and prevent your opponents. An example of such a move is Re1 in the first example because it supports white's e4 move and allows the idea of stopping black's play on the b-file by rerouting the bishop to b5.

@others - I appreciate your comments. They motivate me to want to produce more videos!


Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:15 am
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
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you only want to prevent your opponent from achieving his plan if it is a threat to you.


An extremely important point. Not judging the value, just auto spoil of ideas, or simply ' believing the other guy ', is so prevalent at all levels. Even great players fall guilty to this one. This ' belief ' is likely an advantage in other areas of life, which is why it is such a common ' chess ' mistake.


Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:43 am
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
Thanks for explaining that to me, I find that sometimes I get overly concerned with my opponents plan assuming it is good and it leads me to play passively.

Look forward to more videos on this theme if you get the time/motivation. Keep up the great work

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Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:36 am
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
incredible video - I think we can all get something from figuring out how to formulate a plan - very cool - thanks

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Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:27 pm
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
That was great, thanks! And congrats on being "most viewed video" of the day.

This was very instructive. Although I don't always spot tactics, I know how to look for them, and if I'm alert and diligent I can usually spot them. If all else fails, I have a computer to help me out.

But planning, and positional patterns -- sometimes I'm completely lost with no idea how to find my way. So this is great.

I wish someone would come out with a 1001 positional ideas workbook -- kind of like all the tactics workbooks that are out there.

Anyway, thanks again.


Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:46 pm
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
Nice video! I also was tempted by the idea of Qf6 in order to try to trade queens on d4. This seemed logical to me since White's main source of counterplay was the idea of Qxa5 after the black rook moves away from b4. But really White can just play e3, preventing Qd4, and I think the black queen isn't doing anything on f6. The maneuver of the black queen over to the queenside is slower but unstoppable and therefore probably better.

I think it is difficult to know when to try to prevent the opponent's plans (a la the game where you indicated the best move was Rad8 to prevent White's e4 break) vs. when to proceed with your own, and really this is either a matter of experience and intuition or concrete calculation. Definitely something that I have to work on myself. Any thoughts?


Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:25 am
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 Re: mjh2111 - Basic Intro to Basic Planning [13:07]
Laurent wrote:
I think it is difficult to know when to try to prevent the opponent's plans (a la the game where you indicated the best move was Rad8 to prevent White's e4 break) vs. when to proceed with your own, and really this is either a matter of experience and intuition or concrete calculation. Definitely something that I have to work on myself. Any thoughts?

I agree this is difficult!
IMO , generally speaking, one clue is whether your advantage is temporary (development, mating attack) or permanent (material, space/pawn structure).

By "advantage" i just mean the positive features of your position (imbalances that favor your side), regardless of the overall evaluation.

I'd be interested to hear what MJH thinks about this too.

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Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:02 pm
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